Wanted: suggestions for new Bucket list pioneers

Joost
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We are always curious to discover potential pioneers for our Bucket list. Do you have suggestions for us? If so, please share them with us, and tell us why you think this pioneer should be added to the list.

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Martin

Martin

You should really talk to David Heinemeier Hansson (creator Ruby on Rails & founder Basecamp). His book "It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work" is a real eye-opener!

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Joost

Joost

You're right, Martin. Basecamp is on the list, but we should maybe add David Heinemeier Hansson as well!

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Dan

Dan

I think Helen Bevan (@HelenBevan on Twitter) is an inspirational person working in the NHS in England. Gary Hamel talks about NHS Change Day that was started by her and Jackie Lynton (sadly deceased) here:

Let me tell you a story about two individuals, Helen Bevan and Jackie Lynton, who were in the middle of one of the most bureaucratic, biggest organizations in the world and had a profound impact on that organization. The story starts in early 2013 and the organization is Britain's National Health Service, with more than a million employees. As you might imagine, it's bureaucratic. Healthcare is a very complex industry and if you are in Britain or you follow the British newspapers, just about every week you'll find a story of something that's gone wrong in the NHS. Well, Helen and Jackie had many years of experience at the NHS, but they weren't senior line executives. They were mid-level change people who'd run different sorts of traditional change projects at the NHS. They found themselves talking one afternoon to a group of young trainee doctors who had just joined the National Health Service and who were already frustrated about how difficult it was to get things done and how often doing the right thing for patients came second, third or fourth to doing the right thing for bureaucracy so they thought maybe there's another way to drive change here at the NHS. Now, the unit in which they worked, which was an internal consulting unit, they thought that that unit was going to be disbanded within a matter of months, so starting in January 2013, they launched their little project. They gave it a very ambitions name, the Change Day, but they said, "We only have 90 days to do something significant," and the project worked like this. Using a little social media platform and then everything they could do with viral marketing, they invited colleagues in to fill out a simple pledge form where you could pledge something you were going to do within your job, within your scope of permissions, to improve patient care. 2013 was the 65th anniversary of the National Health Service and they were hoping that by March, when they thought the project would have to end, they were hoping to get 65 thousand pledges. By the end of January, they had a few hundred. By Mid-February, about 5,000 and by the time they ended the Day of Change in Mid-March, they had 189 thousand pledges. A typical pledge might come from a group of paediatricians who said, "We promise to taste every medicine before prescribing it to kids and a helpless parent who's gonna have to try to get it down their throats," or it might be a group of nurses on a ward who said, "Every week, with their permission, we'll video our patients with our camera phones and then we'll come back and talk about what we could do to make their experience in the hospital more pleasant for them." So imagine that times 189 thousand pledges. That became the single biggest change program in the history of the NHS and Helen and Jackie launched it without any permissions, without going up, without putting together any big plans. They just started something. That's how you think if you're an activist, not an anarchist, not a terrorist, but if you're an activist, when you say, "I'm not helpless. I'm not going to ask somebody else to do this. This organization is my organization. I care too much about it to be helpless and I believe we can do something starting where I am right now." That's the secret to making a difference. That's the secret to hacking management.

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zeorin

zeorin

What about Matt Mullenweg, the founder of Automattic, the company behind WordPress?
Their workforce is almost 100% remotely distributed around the world.
They interview using paid "auditions".
Everyone spends time doing customer support.
They have very high employee retention.

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Pim

Pim

You should talk to Allard Droste about the way he thinks about trust and responsibility. His book 'Semco in de polder' is definitely an aanrader ;)

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Joost

Joost

I think Helen Bevan (@HelenBevan on Twitter) is an inspirational person working in the NHS in England. Gary Hamel talks about NHS Change Day that was started by her and Jackie Lynton (sadly deceased) here:

Let me tell you a story about two individuals, Helen Bevan and Jackie Lynton, who were in the middle of one of the most bureaucratic, biggest organizations in the world

Dan

Thanks for this great suggestion Dan! Helen Bevan is on our radar already for a long time but, I agree, it is more than time to add her to the Bucket list..

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Joost

Joost

What about Matt Mullenweg, the founder of Automattic, the company behind WordPress?
Their workforce is almost 100% remotely distributed around the world.
They interview using paid "auditions".
Everyone spends time doing customer support.
They have very high employee retention.

zeorin

Thanks Zeorin for this suggestion. We are going look into it! Sounds very interesting indeed...

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Hannes

Hannes

Hi Joost,

have you talk to Karl-Martin Dietz? He's part of the Friedrich von Hardenberg Institut e.V. in Heidelberg. They have great (german) books and worked f.e. for dm.

Thanks for your great work!
Hannes

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Joost

Joost

Hi Joost,

have you talk to Karl-Martin Dietz? He's part of the Friedrich von Hardenberg Institut e.V. in Heidelberg. They have great (german) books and worked f.e. for dm.

Thanks for your great work!
Hannes

Hannes

Hi Hannes, we never talked to Karl-Martin Dietz. Can you share a bit more about what is so special about his work and the Friedrich von Hardenberg Institut?

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waldek_p2p

waldek_p2p

what about Ken Blanchard with his agility approach ( One Minute Manager ) supported by Servant Leadership concept?

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Joost

Joost

what about Ken Blanchard with his agility approach ( One Minute Manager ) supported by Servant Leadership concept?

waldek_p2p

Thanks Waldek! Very interesting suggestion!

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anna-m

anna-m

I've recently come across some of Harold Jarche's work and find it fascinating. May be worth a look.

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PaulC

PaulC

How about Margaret Wheately founder of the Berkana Institute http://www.berkana.org?

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dwinter

dwinter

I was hoping to find ... Peter Senge, Dennis Bakke, Jack Stakke, Patrick Lencioni on the list.

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Joost

Joost

I've recently come across some of Harold Jarche's work and find it fascinating. May be worth a look.

anna-m

Thanks Anna for the suggestion. Could you please share what is fascinating about Harold Jarche's work?

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Henry Stewart

Henry Stewart

Two self-managing organisations well worth a visit: Reddico in Tonbridge, Kent and Mayden in Bath. Email me for contact details.

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Dsimon

Dsimon

I’d like to add Tom Bilyeu who set up Quest nutrition and his other platform for self development called Impact Theory. They sold Quest Nutrition for a billion dollars in 2015. Always impressed by his content and direct approach.

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Joost

Joost

Two self-managing organisations well worth a visit: Reddico in Tonbridge, Kent and Mayden in Bath. Email me for contact details.

Henry Stewart

Thanks for the tips Henry! Let's catch up on Thinkers50, would love to learn more about Reddico and Kent and Mayden...

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Pim

Pim

I was hoping to find ... Peter Senge, Dennis Bakke, Jack Stakke, Patrick Lencioni on the list.

dwinter

Good ones! Dennis Bakke was missed by accident by transferring the website. Jack Stack and the others are great suggestions too! Thanks.

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anna-m

anna-m

Thanks Anna for the suggestion. Could you please share what is fascinating about Harold Jarche's work?

Joost

I find his connections with networks and the human experience really interesting. Quote:

"Collectively we are smarter than any corporation. Learning through communities of practice and knowledge networks enables us to make collective sense. Over the years I have met many people in their 40’s or 50’s who suddenly find themselves without work. Most of them do not have a professional network beyond their organization where they may have worked for a decade or more. Once outside the company, they are adrift.

Being an active citizen-learner by connecting with others outside our everyday lives can expose us to a diversity of skills, knowledge, and perspectives. In a creative economy we are only as good as our networks. An effective network encourages us to keep learning. A good community of practice changes our practice. The more often we change, the better we get at it… We don’t need heroic leaders to create better ways of working. Anyone can exercise leadership by helping make the network smarter, more resilient, and able to make better decisions."

I am particularly drawn to "We don’t need heroic leaders to create better ways of working. Anyone can exercise leadership by helping make the network smarter, more resilient, and able to make better decisions." I like how he's reframing the emphasis of leadership from we need good leaders to lead us into better ways, to leadership can be working to improve a collective process. I think we probably need both of these.

The link for the second blog article: https://jarche.com/2019/09/citizen-learners/

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Michaela

Michaela

Elise Shapiro at Qumulo has been one of the primary thought leaders at Qumulo and our distributed management system of structures here. Qumulo engineering would not be the same without her, from our self-organizing & re-organizing teams, to our "community service" programs to share the responsibilities of "management" across everyone in our flat org, to our near tittle-less "member technical staff" titles and more. A couple of blog posts written mostly by MTS folk on what's radical here:
https://qumulo.com/blog/self-organizing-engineering-teams/
https://qumulo.com/blog/why-i-feel-like-my-own-boss-at-qumulo/
So she my personal pioneer, just not known about widely yet.

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Pim

Pim

I find his connections with networks and the human experience really interesting.

anna-m

Thanks Anna, we'll look into it!

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Pim

Pim

Elise Shapiro at Qumulo has been one of the primary thought leaders at Qumulo and our distributed management system of structures here. Qumulo engineering would not be the same without her, from our self-organizing & re-organizing teams, to our "community service" programs to share the responsibilities of "management" across everyone in our flat org, to our near tittle-less "member technical staff" titles and more. A couple of blog posts written mostly by MTS folk on what's radical here:
https://qumulo.com/blog/self-organizing-engineering-teams/
https://qumulo.com/blog/why-i-feel-like-my-own-boss-at-qumulo/
So she my personal pioneer, just not known about widely yet.

Michaela

Looks promising! Are they based in Seattle? And do you know how many people work there?

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jpmort

jpmort

Toyota and Taichi Ono, they have been quietly doing this since the 1940's, and we are still trying to discover how they did it!

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Pim

Pim

While on a trip in Moscow today we learned about a few new Russian pioneers:

* Mindbox
* Good Wood
* Qiwi
* Tochka Bank
* Vkusvill

More research to be done, if you have info about any of them, please drop it here.

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Daniel

Daniel

Hi, Joost & Pim, two pioneers you should be adding:
- Chris Rufer, founder of The Morning Star Company, I believe no additional comment is required here.
- FDSA, a Spanish software company from Palma de Mallorca, in the route towards full Self-Management. I am currently studying it as part of my PhD research project. Its visionary leader and founder is Alejo Ecube, a sort of Spanish "Chris Rufer".

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Pim

Pim

Hi, Joost & Pim, two pioneers you should be adding:
- Chris Rufer, founder of The Morning Star Company, I believe no additional comment is required here.
- FDSA, a Spanish software company from Palma de Mallorca, in the route towards full Self-Management. I am currently studying it as part of my PhD research project. Its visionary leader and founder is Alejo Ecube, a sort of Spanish "Chris Rufer".

Daniel

Totally right about Chris. And about FDSA, do you have some more information? Any article, info you have is appreciated. And how many staff do they have?

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Daniel

Daniel

Hi Pim: yes, they are 50 people and growing (maybe as I'm writing, a few more). In this section of their website: https://www.fdsa.es/del-empoderamiento-a-la-autogestion/, you can check FDSA's path towards Self-Management, in the words of his founder Alejo Ecube, only it is written in Spanish (by the way, they guy on the left of the photograph is me, on my first Action Research day with them, in July this year). Here is a recent press release in a leading diary from the Balearic Islands: https://www.ultimahora.es/noticias/economico/2019/10/11/1112649/fdsa-programacion-confia-doip.html, regarding their employment activities. If you wish, I could interview them in English in the name of Corporate Rebels as I'll be flying to Mallorca for another Action Research session with them pretty soon. Best regards. Daniel.

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Pim

Pim

Hi Pim: yes, they are 50 people and growing (maybe as I'm writing, a few more). In this section of their website: https://www.fdsa.es/del-empoderamiento-a-la-autogestion/, you can check FDSA's path towards Self-Management, in the words of his founder Alejo Ecube, only it is written in Spanish (by the way, they guy on the left of the photograph is me, on my first Action Research day with them, in July this year). Here is a recent press release in a leading diary from the Balearic Islands: https://www.ultimahora.es/noticias/economico/2019/10/11/1112649/fdsa-programacion-confia-doip.html, regarding their employment activities. If you wish, I could interview them in English in the name of Corporate Rebels as I'll be flying to Mallorca for another Action Research session with them pretty soon. Best regards. Daniel.

Daniel

Cool, I can read Spanish so I'll check it out! Would be great if you could interview and share your ideas in a guest post. If you need help, drop me an email at pim@corporate-rebels.com

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Daniel

Daniel

Excelente, Pim, así lo haré. Saludos. Daniel.

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Pim

Pim

Excelente, Pim, así lo haré. Saludos. Daniel.

Daniel

Muchas grucias!

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Marc

Marc

Hi Joost & Pim,

Here CampFire Co-Op, an Australian born cooperation between few that unified with the aim to help people and organisations bring the best of themselves to purposeful work and their lives.

Enjoy www.CampFire.coop

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Joost

Joost

Hi Joost & Pim,

Here CampFire Co-Op, an Australian born cooperation between few that unified with the aim to help people and organisations bring the best of themselves to purposeful work and their lives.

Enjoy www.CampFire.coop

Marc

Thanks Marc! We know them, we worked with them in the past :)

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Joost

Joost

I think Helen Bevan (@HelenBevan on Twitter) is an inspirational person working in the NHS in England. Gary Hamel talks about NHS Change Day that was started by her and Jackie Lynton (sadly deceased) here:

Let me tell you a story about two individuals, Helen Bevan and Jackie Lynton, who were in the middle of one of the most bureaucratic, biggest organizations in the world and had a profound impact on that organization. The story starts in early 2013 and the organization is Britain's National Health Service, with more than a million employees. As you might imagine, it's bureaucratic. Healthcare is a very complex industry and if you are in Britain or you follow the British newspapers, just about every week you'll find a story of something that's gone wrong in the NHS. Well, Helen and Jackie had many years of experience at the NHS, but they weren't senior line executives. They were mid-level change people who'd run different sorts of traditional change projects at the NHS. They found themselves talking one afternoon to a group of young trainee doctors who had just joined the National Health Service and who were already frustrated about how difficult it was to get things done and how often doing the right thing for patients came second, third or fourth to doing the right thing for bureaucracy so they thought maybe there's another way to drive change here at the NHS. Now, the unit in which they worked, which was an internal consulting unit, they thought that that unit was going to be disbanded within a matter of months, so starting in January 2013, they launched their little project. They gave it a very ambitions name, the Change Day, but they said, "We only have 90 days to do something significant," and the project worked like this. Using a little social media platform and then everything they could do with viral marketing, they invited colleagues in to fill out a simple pledge form where you could pledge something you were going to do within your job, within your scope of permissions, to improve patient care. 2013 was the 65th anniversary of the National Health Service and they were hoping that by March, when they thought the project would have to end, they were hoping to get 65 thousand pledges. By the end of January, they had a few hundred. By Mid-February, about 5,000 and by the time they ended the Day of Change in Mid-March, they had 189 thousand pledges. A typical pledge might come from a group of paediatricians who said, "We promise to taste every medicine before prescribing it to kids and a helpless parent who's gonna have to try to get it down their throats," or it might be a group of nurses on a ward who said, "Every week, with their permission, we'll video our patients with our camera phones and then we'll come back and talk about what we could do to make their experience in the hospital more pleasant for them." So imagine that times 189 thousand pledges. That became the single biggest change program in the history of the NHS and Helen and Jackie launched it without any permissions, without going up, without putting together any big plans. They just started something. That's how you think if you're an activist, not an anarchist, not a terrorist, but if you're an activist, when you say, "I'm not helpless. I'm not going to ask somebody else to do this. This organization is my organization. I care too much about it to be helpless and I believe we can do something starting where I am right now." That's the secret to making a difference. That's the secret to hacking management.

Dan

We have added Helen :)

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daheq

daheq

In my opinion, Erik Ringertz (CEO of netlight, a Scandinavian IT consulting company) and netlight itself is worth a visit. He just released the German version of its book "harder better faster stronger" describing their culture, leadership style, environment without hierarchies and why old-fashioned command-and-control environments don't work.

I had the chance to talk to netlight folks a few months ago and also the book was truly inspiring.

https://www.netlight.com/hbfs/
https://twitter.com/Ringertz

An English glimpse behind the scene:
https://soundcloud.com/p-jobbet/erik-ringertz-netlight

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daheq

daheq

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Pebbe

Pebbe

Three people immediate comes to mind:
Bob Chapman, CEO of Barry-Wehmiller companies and Chapman & Co consulting, Author of "Everybody Matters - the extraordinary power of caring for your people like family"
Raj Sisodia, co-inventor of Conscious Capitalism and then some!!!
Jane Adshead-Grant, executive coach and associated with Barry-Wehmiller.

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Eagle-Agile

Eagle-Agile

Ruth Bader Ginsburg - Supreme Court Justice said,

"Real change, enduring change, happens one step at a time."

and

"If you want to be a true professional, do something outside yourself."

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Joost

Joost

In my opinion, Erik Ringertz (CEO of netlight, a Scandinavian IT consulting company) and netlight itself is worth a visit. He just released the German version of its book "harder better faster stronger" describing their culture, leadership style, environment without hierarchies and why old-fashioned command-and-control environments don't work.

I had the chance to talk to netlight folks a few months ago and also the book was truly inspiring.

https://www.netlight.com/hbfs/
https://twitter.com/Ringertz

An English glimpse behind the scene:
https://soundcloud.com/p-jobbet/erik-ringertz-netlight

daheq

Thanks for the tip Felix! We will dive into his work.

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Joost

Joost

Three people immediate comes to mind:
Bob Chapman, CEO of Barry-Wehmiller companies and Chapman & Co consulting, Author of "Everybody Matters - the extraordinary power of caring for your people like family"
Raj Sisodia, co-inventor of Conscious Capitalism and then some!!!
Jane Adshead-Grant, executive coach and associated with Barry-Wehmiller.

Pebbe

Great tips Per! We are familiar with the work of Bob and Raj, and I agree that they must be on the list. We will add them soon.
Never heard about Jane, but will dive into her work soon...

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wolfaisle

wolfaisle

Laura Winterling is truly a pioneer - she sends people off to space!

As a former trainer for astronauts with ESA, Laura knows very well what it means to give up solid ground below your feet. However, she is even more aware of the potential and encourages people like you and me to experience the same when we lift off. Literally, when we become crazy enough to apply for an adventure in space - and also when we listen to her as a speaker at events.

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Pim

Pim

Laura Winterling is truly a pioneer - she sends people off to space!

As a former trainer for astronauts with ESA, Laura knows very well what it means to give up solid ground below your feet. However, she is even more aware of the potential and encourages people like you and me to experience the same when we lift off. Literally, when we become crazy enough to apply for an adventure in space - and also when we listen to her as a speaker at events.

wolfaisle

And what does she do to make work more fun? What can we learn from her on that topic? Besides sending bad employers into space 😉

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Wolfaisle

Wolfaisle

And what does she do to make work more fun? What can we learn from her on that topic? Besides sending bad employers into space 😉

Pim

Laura helps employees - as well as organizations - to transform. For example, by empowering female workers or by encouraging people to think differently. To listen to her and to see how much energy she brings, is definitely fun!

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Whiterdark

Whiterdark

Douglas Engelbart!

Engelbart occupied himself with ‘boosting mankind's capability for coping with complex, urgent problems’. As one of the early birds in the world of personal computing, he advocated that computer technologies should always have that goal in mind: to increase the intellect of the group, not of the individual. His thorough research on ‘collective IQ’ is a great roadmap if we have to transform our society to a local orientated one.

“Whether developing a new product or service, researching a topic of interest, seeking a cure for cancer, or improving conditions in underserved communities, a group's Collective IQ is a key determinant of how effectively it will respond to the challenges presented. More specifically, regardless of the end goals, it comes down to how quickly and intelligently the group can identify needs and opportunities, develop and deploy solutions, and incorporate lessons learned, while continuously iterating and adapting to changing conditions until the goals are met” - (Douglas Engelbart Institute, about Collective IQ ).

Engelbart believed in the power of the well-connected group instead of the well-connected individual. He thought designing technologies for groups would help us evolve and develop skills to cope with the complex problems our highly advanced civilization presents us.

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Pim

Pim

Sounds very interesting. A shame that he passed away and therefore visiting as part of our Bucket List research is going to be a challenge 😉. Will check out more on his thoughts and ideas.

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ledonya

ledonya

Bruce Daisley - Twitter and EatSleepWorkRepeat Podcast and The Joy of Work.

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